Episode 65 September 20th, 2021

Cube Feelbads: Breaking Zero-Sum Fun in Magic

0:00
Official Cube banlist update
4:18
Listener submitted pack 1, pick 1
10:20
What is a "feelbad"
12:51
Cards people think have feelbad potential in Andy's Bun Magic Cube
15:06
Is Magic a Zero Fun game?
19:09
Cards Andy himself thinks are feelbads in his Bun Magic Cube
27:43
Combat tricks, Force Spikes, and feelbads in Anthony’s Regular Cube
40:17
The agony and the ecstasy of Whitemane Lion and cards it feels bad to win with
46:30
Effect density
48:43
Repetitive play patterns
50:02
Inheriting impressions from other formats and exceptions to the rules
53:17
Esper Sentinel vs Thalia and perceived choices
55:05
The inherent feelbad of variance
55:58
Is there a way to make natural power outliers not feelbads?
59:51
Summary — TLDL;

Our Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Cube survey is open! Please take a few minutes to let us know what you’re testing in your cube from the new set.

Andy and Anthony talk about the ‘feelbad’ moments in Magic and the cards that are more likely to create them. This seemingly narrow topic turns out to be one of the most critical and easy to take for granted aspects of Cube design: how do we make it fun? They pick out some of the most likely cards they play that can lead to negative experiences, why those experiences create the emotional responses they do, and where that risk is worthwhile.

Our listener submitted pack 1, pick 1 this week comes from Nick’s Noob Cube, a Cube designed to be approachable for new players including uncommons and doubled up commons. Nick created the amazing MTG Multiverse project, cataloging cards from the planes of Magic. Invaluable to designers building set themed cubes.

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